Re-done Routes Remastered (Locations Dex)

[Nyaa-Neko]

((Edit: I'm putting up suggested lists. If you wanna say something or tell me a Pokemon you want to see catchable in Jenta...now would be a good time...and these are at the bottom of the thread, so scroll down to see them.))

((I'll make this an announcement once I get back from Spring Break...since by then, we'll have only two-ish weeks left until The Great Wild Pokemon List Edits! ^_^))

Alright, so I'll edit this post once I have more time...but here's the deal.

1. We have wild Pokemon lists.
2. These wild Pokemon lists should probably be edited.
3. There are Sinnoh Pokemon.
4. None of these Sinnoh Pokemon (even evolutions/pre-evolutions) live in Jenta.
5. I want them to. I think you do, too.
6. Introducing the Sinnoh Pokemon gives us a good chance to edit the wild Pokemon lists.
7. I like pie, but do not have easy access to it.

Anyways, the last one taken aside, we have a good chance to edit the wild Pokemon lists...I will be doing most of the work on this (though I may enlist/enslave some of the mods to help), however...

I want to know what Pokemon you'd like to see from Sinnoh (or elsewhere, but that isn't already wild in Jenta) as wild Pokemon in Jenta. ^_^

So please suggest some Pokemon you'd like to have access to! I'll be sure to take all suggestions toward the lists into account, though they may not make the final cut. I will try to see if I can get a line representative in the wild, though.

Oh, and here are some Sinnoh Pokemon lines you don't have to worry about, since they're definites:

- Chimchar/Turtwig/Piplup lines (um, duh, they're STARTERS!)
- The Starly, Bidoof, Shinx, and/or Kricketot lines (at least one will appear...since they appear "early" in the game, and can all easily live in Route 1)
- The Buizel line and Chatot (Best. Generation 4. Pokemon. And they were the two "originals", aside from Lucario. Plus I have these two on Diamond. So they're givens.)
- New additions to lines which already have a line representative in Jenta.

If you want to see the Locations Pokedex, it is here: banette.proboards51.com/index.cgi?board=rules&action=display&thread=1169970871

[MorriganFearn]

I sense work in the offing -.-; Can I just request that anyone asking for eevee to be made aviliable in the wild be hit over the head with a copy of "Why all eevee on Jenta are INSANE,"please? It's a very thick virtual reality folder.

I'd personallty like to see more ghosts on Jenta. Dunno why, since Tommy is never going to catch one unless it has a personality that goes splendidly well for the team. But DP's new concentration on type has really increased the number of dark and ghost types aviliable to be running around.

[Lee]

Put more ghosts to scare poor Zach, huh? XD

Mmm. Grass types. I dun know what they are, but every site needs lots of grass types. -nods-

[Terrill]

Bellsprout! And Cherubi/Cherinbo line. ( Because I want a Cherrim/Cherimu badly. ^^ )

And yes, I, too, sence work ahead...

[Nyaa-Neko]

Oh, so you reply to THIS thread, but not the one in the Staff Chat, Mori-chan? *shuns*

I am currently in love with Drifloon (whatever it is...the Fuwante line! I KNOW IT BETTER IN JAPANESE!), so yeah. There weren't many new ghosts, though...there is a ghost-evo addition to the snorunt line, and dusclops got an evolution...same with misdreavus (I <3 Mumaaji! Um...Mismagius?)

I don't know about other new ghosts other than Rotom (I think there's one more, but I'm blanking...I think it's English name is Spiritomb or something), and while I <3 Rotom sooooo much, it's kind of rare/demi-legendary. And it comes out of a television.

But nya. More ghosts is easy...put 'em on Route 4! JENTAN GHOST SWARMS!

Edit: outpost'd. Cherinbo should be easy to put in. And I shall look into the others you said, too. ^_^

[MorriganFearn]

We had Jentan Ghost swarms o.0. I had forgotten it. And I can get a list of all of the grass types in the games, so we could pick and choose. And I do support bellsprout. That's my secret Kanto grassy fave after tangela... ^^ >)

[Lee]

...Oddish is still the best....But Tangela is neat. XD And I like Weepinbell. Don't care much for Bellsprout or Victrebell...But Weepinbell is neat. XD

Poor, poor, Zach. So many ghosts...

Mmm. We oughta have more normal-types too. Because they swarm everything...Muahaha.

[Nyaa-Neko]

Mrrr...I shall look into Bellsprout. I love that thing...not crazy about the evolutions (I still like 'em, though), but Belly is awesome. ^_^

OH YEAH!

And these Sinnoh Pokemon have a high probability of being in Jenta:

- The Shellos line, because I <3 it so much
- Pachirisu...because...um...yeah
- Anything you see on my trainer card, because I <3 my team so much ^_^
- The...um...Drifloon? line...um...Fuwante/Fuwaraido. They're...flying/ghost balloons and I <3 them
- Glameow/Purugly, since they are cats, and therefore I <3 them...yes, even Purugly. Maybe I'll only make them wild...and skip the most-likely-going-to-be-Sue'd Glameow...hmm...

[MorriganFearn]

Me, I love Victreebell. But I like Bellsprout's entire evoution line, which is odd for me. I usually only like bits and pieces of a 3 part evo line...

Nurr. Glameow would be sue'd? But they aren't even cute...

[Terrill]

They're cute, but not as much as meowth and skitty lines. ( Like Delcatty the best ^^ )

[MorriganFearn]

I'd love delcatty if it weren't for the supide pom-pom'd collar. No Persian is the best. And Mewtwo beats them all. Yay for anorexic freak kitties!

[Lee]

...Oddish and Articuno beat 'em all. So pooey.

Nahahaha. My favorite kitty would have to be...Persian. -nods- Skitty's tail is blech, Delcatty...I agree with MF, the collar is stupid....Meowth isn't as cute as Persian...But I dun like Mewtwo as much as the birds (the original three, not Lugia and Latios and Latias and Ho-oh and all of them...Just Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres), and Mew. Or Oddish. Oddish beats 'em all. XD

[MorriganFearn]

In my book bellsprout beats oddish, and since oddish dominates the world, bellsprout is the real ruler. Besides, so many fans over look the bells, so I can get away with liking them, AND using them in my fan fics *brick'd for information leakage.*

Oh, can skorpis or however you spell it, be made aviliable? Me loveth the scorpion pokie. There should be more.

[Jason-Kun]

What about Shinx? I LOVE th at pokemon. Though Kyogre IS THE BEST POKEMON EVER!!!! Followed by Mudkip, Meowth, and Shinx. Then all rthe others are severts to Kyogre, Mudkip, Meowth, and Shinx....

[MorriganFearn]

- Anything you see on my trainer card, because I <3 my team so much ^_^

Nyaa's already got you covered since she has the sphinx line on her card. Or haven't you seen her flaunted state in Diamond? ^^

[Nyaa-Neko]

Yup. ^_^ Actually...anything that is wild in the first couple of routes will most likely go into Route 1 (or 3 or 5). So basically, here are some lines you probably DON'T have to worry about (and I apologize if I get the English names wrong...)

- Bippa/Bidoof line
- Korinku/Shinx line
- Mukkuru/Starly line
- Subomii/Budew line
- Korobooshi/Kricketot line
- Karanakushi/Shellos line
- Pachirisu
- Buizeru/Buizel line

[Nyaa-Neko]

((Alright, so here are the lists. The key for the Pokemon is:

Normal text - on the original list, staying for the new list
Crossed out - removed from the list
Bolded - added to the list

Also note - as of right now, the ONLY Pokemon I've added to the routes are from Generation 4. So don't be discouraged of an oldie isn't on there yet...))

---> GROUP 1 ROUTES <---

Route 1:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 17
-------- Pokemon removed: 5
-------- Pokemon added: 4
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 16
-- Rattata
-- Zigzagoon
-- Bidoof
-- Caterpie
-- Pidgey
-- Sentret
-- Ledyba
-- Spearow
-- Shinx
-- Metapod
-- Spinerak
-- Kricketot
-- Poochyena
-- Bellsprout
-- Magikarp
-- Surskit
-- Poliwag
-- Marill
-- Lotad
-- Goldeen
-- Wooper

Mushroom Forest:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 11
-------- Pokemon removed: 3
-------- Pokemon added: 7
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 15
-- Shroomish
-- Oddish
-- Sunkern
-- Burmy
-- Sunflora
-- Starly
-- Taillow
-- Budew
-- Spearow
-- Pachirisu
-- Mankey
-- Weedle
-- Wurmple
-- Bulbasaur
-- Cherubi
-- Nincada
-- Stantler
-- Heracross

Route 2:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 32
-------- Pokemon removed: 15
-------- Pokemon added: 3
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 20
-- Venonat
-- Yanma
-- Nincada
-- Marill
-- Barboach
-- Nidoran
-- Tangela
-- Spinerak
-- Mudkip
-- Lotad
-- Shellos
-- Lombre
-- Corphish
-- Krabby
-- Oddish
-- Gloom
-- Shuckle
-- Marshtomp
-- Surskit
-- Masquerain
-- Hoppip
-- Gastly
-- Gyarados
-- Poliwhirl
-- Slowpoke
-- Slowbro
-- Kingler
-- Buizel
-- Psyduck
-- Squirtle
-- Wartortle
-- Relicanth
-- Finneon
-- Feebas
-- Luvdisc


---> GROUP 2 ROUTES <---

Route 3:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 17
-------- Pokemon removed: 7
-------- Pokemon added: 4
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 14
-- Pidgey
-- Pidgeotto
-- Sentret
-- Cubone
-- Mankey
-- Machop
-- Clefairy
-- Buneary
-- Doduo
-- Jigglypuff
-- Hoppip
-- Jumpluff
-- Dunsparce
-- Oddish
-- Stunky
-- Stantler
-- Seedot
-- Bonsly
-- Nuzleaf
-- Tangela

Route 4:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 18
-------- Pokemon removed: 3
-------- Pokemon added: 4
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 19
-- Aipom
-- Chatot
-- Natu
-- Xatu
-- Snubbull
-- Heracross
-- Hoothoot
-- Houndour
-- Gastly
-- Shuppet
-- Duskull
-- Noctowl
-- Murkrow
-- Drifloon
-- Haunter
-- Misdreavus
-- Spiritomb
-- Houndoom
-- Gengar
-- Drifblim
-- Banette
-- Dusclops


---> GROUP 3 ROUTES <---

Route 5:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 23
-------- Pokemon removed: 7
-------- Pokemon added: 2
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 18
-- Slugma
-- Numel
-- Torkoal
-- Growlithe
-- Geodude
-- Phanpy
-- Cubone
-- Vulpix
-- Magmar
-- Skorupi
-- Magcargo
-- Sandslash
-- Marowak
-- Sudowoodo
-- Pikachu
-- Magby
-- Camerupt
-- Manectric
-- Electabuzz
-- Ponyta
-- Rhyhorn
-- Purugly
-- Larvitar
-- Nidoqueen
-- Nidoking

Sunstone Tunnel:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 10
-------- Pokemon removed: 3
-------- Pokemon added: 3
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 10
-- Golbat
-- Loudred
-- Lairon
-- Gible
-- Pupitar
-- Hippopotas
-- Lunatone
-- Solrock
-- Bronzor
-- Dugtrio
-- Aggron
-- Claydol
-- Hariyama

Route 6:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 11
-------- Pokemon removed: 2
-------- Pokemon added: 3
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 12
-- Swinub
-- Delibird
-- Snover
-- Teddiursa
-- Jynx
-- Sneasel
-- Snorunt
-- Quilava
-- Smoochum
-- Piloswine
-- Abomasnow
-- Glalie
-- Mamoswine
-- Ursaring


---> FINAL LAYER ROUTES <---

Route 7:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 41
-------- Pokemon removed: 8
-------- Pokemon added: 3
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 36
-- Tentacool
-- Tentacruel
-- Goldeen
-- Seaking
-- Mantine
-- Hoppip
-- Horsea
-- Wailmer
-- Sharpedo
-- Luvdisc
-- Gyarados
-- Seadra
-- Remoraid
-- Wailord
-- Quilfish
-- Skiploom
-- Mantyke
-- Ghastly
-- Shuppet
-- Duskull
-- Drifloon
-- Pelipper
-- Jumpluff
-- Ditto
-- Lapras
-- Milotic
-- Blastoise
-- Pidgeot
-- Drifblim
-- Altaria
-- Kingdra
-- Seel
-- Spheal
-- Shellder
-- Sealeo
-- Carvahna
-- Wingull
-- Pidgeotto
-- Lumineon
-- Fearow
-- Swellow
-- Dewgong
-- Walrein
-- Cloyster
-- Dratini

Victory Dive
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 41
-------- Pokemon removed: 12
-------- Pokemon added: 2
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 31
-- Tentacool
-- Tentacruel
-- Gyarados
-- Wailmer
-- Goldeen
-- Seaking
-- Horsea
-- Seadra
-- Remoraid
-- Wailord
-- Sharpedo
-- Luvdisc
-- Whiscash
-- Mantyke
-- Mantine
-- Staryu
-- Ditto
-- Lapras
-- Milotic
-- Blastoise
-- Kingdra
-- Dewgong
-- Corsola
-- Relicanth
-- Dratini
-- Lileep
-- Anorith
-- Shellder
-- Clamperl
-- Krabby
-- Corphish
-- Chinchou
-- Kingler
-- Crawdaunt
-- Starmie
-- Omanyte
-- Lanturn
-- Cloyster
-- Huntail
-- Gorebyss
-- Octillery
-- Kabutops
-- Omastar


---> ALTERNATE AREAS <---

Sankaku Island Grasslands:
-------- Original Number of Pokemon: 13
-------- Pokemon removed: 4
-------- Pokemon added: 3
-------- Total number of Pokemon: 12
-- Spoink
-- Rattata
-- Shuckle
-- Nidoran
-- Abra
-- Nincada
-- Barboach
-- Exeggcute
-- Slowpoke
-- Sandshrew
-- Chingling
-- Mime Jr.
-- Baltoy
-- Wooper
-- Meditite
-- Riolu

Underground Maze:
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 10
-------- Pokemon removed: 1
-------- Pokemon added: 2
-------- Original number of Pokemon: 11
-- Geodude
-- Aron
-- Diglett
-- Trapinch
-- Nosepass
-- Sableye
-- Mawile
-- Dunsparce
-- Larvitar
-- Croagunk
-- Onix
-- Beldum

((If nobody says anything about these, they will go up as you see them here sometime tomorrow. Or now. Depending on what I feel like.))

[Lee]

--says something-

Yes!

-hugs Shellos- Blue is better, but pink is cool. Yea. -hugs her pink shellos-

Good. After Zach finishes up his third group routes, he's going to route two. Well, one. But yea. Because I want a Shellos.

[Nyaa-Neko]

Oh yeah...the color thing...

For Shellos...umm...well, technically Route 2 is sort of in central Jenta...I guess it's closer to the east? Maybe I'll make the pink ones a bit rarer than the blue ones...hmmmm...-_- (<3 Shellos/Gastrodon soooooooo much)

And hmm...I'm thinking about putting Skorupi (or whatever its name is) on Route 5...just cuz I dun have a better place for it.

Is there anything else that I need to add/subtract? What about oldies ya wanna see? And a suggested place would be good, too...

Argh! *withholds rant about how small and not-diverse-at-all the population of completely Sinnoh-native non-legendary-or-starter Pokemon is*

[MorriganFearn]

If you have no other place to put some suggested. The could go into the "Outer Island," once someone manages to open the door of the stupid lab and unlock the new areas... And I'd like to see hoppip somewhere, just because I like Hoppip. They should go on Route six actually, because remember the thing we discussed in the "Abnormal" thread. I mean, the only other pokie I have left to modify is the horsies, and I'm not sure how they're going to change...

Also, I've been thinking about doing something to the snubull/granbull line, because they're unloved.